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Transformers movie Producer Don Murphy posted on his official message board that Megatron's final head design in the Transformers movie will be different than the leaked design in late August of this year. "I CAN tell you that Megs’ head will not look like he did in the leaked pics," stated Mr. Murphy in his sunday posting. In a continuation of his rather sarcastic post, Mr. Murphy hints that the design was changed for the fans: "It was NOT because we were trying to make the fans happy. NO SIREE."
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Re: Final Megatron Movie Head Different Than Leaked One (Score: 1) by C-310 on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 @ 06:55:28 PM
Perhaps all the negative responds are threatening Bay's fiancial projection... Good, nice to know that he's listening for a change? ;P
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by SuperSam on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 @ 09:26:32 PM
Hooray! There's hope for good looking transformers after all.
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by NachoMon on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 @ 10:06:27 PM
Only the face will be changed? It was the less horrible part of all that amorphous body!!
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by Gigatron on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 @ 10:23:42 PM
Thank God they're going to change the head! Please give him the classic "sculpture from Easter Island" face! Bay could make a nice story line about that too! (Megatron worshipped by the people of Easter Island and appearing to them as a God! And that being the reason why they made those mysterious heads which are spread on the island)
Just add the armcanon and we're in business!
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by eneyekay on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 01:14:51 AM
...yea, but what's it being changed to?
now all they have to do is change the rest of him to be more g1-like, take the flames off Prime, give Bumblebee a face that doesn't look like a Furby from hell, get rid of Jazz and stick him in a Gundam movie where he belongs and start all over again, but listen to the fans this time.
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by TomPrime on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 02:18:11 AM
ok, the mere fact that they are going to change it due to fan feedback lets me hope that they might change some other stuff, too.
please, more messages like these! maybe they can turn the negative press into a positive hype.
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by jacksparrowlives on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 02:47:34 AM
so they changed it big deal. I don't klnow why everyones whining that its not g1,that just means it wont suck more.Thye already said it wasn't going to be g1. Its time for a change, we need something new, not just the same g1 crap remodeled, thats what the classic line is for.
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by Blitzwing on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 03:09:59 AM
I'm gonna sit back and wait until the revised head shows up. Being that this this is so far along, I can't see them doing a drastic change.
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by TomPrime on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 03:18:48 AM
doesn't need to be G1. not at all.
characters need to be recognizeable, that's all.
everything that goes towards that direction is great news.
and that it's due to the world's feedback is even better news - maybe those guys are doing a much better job than many of us thought.
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by ShockwaveRider on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 04:03:29 AM
Well I am glad to hear that Don is still interested in making a movie that people will actually like. :)
They don't look to have made that much of Megs in full scale, and most of that is obscured, so I think they've got some good wiggle room.
My biggest problem with Guyvatronicle is that the face has nothing you can hang a personality on. I could forgive the rest of the body if the face could emote in a recognizeable fashion, and convey the essence of the character.
I too would love to see an arm cannon, and I doubt it would be that hard to add even at this stage. Eh, Don? Eh??
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by Traveler on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 05:11:29 AM
They finally make some sense. They might as well change the body too. Hopefully it'll come out more transformer like.
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by trycon-matrix on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 06:30:11 AM
Took them long enough
Now if they would change all the other designs we might just have something that resembles a transformer movie
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by Triceratron on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 07:52:46 AM
As much as everyone else hates it, the assumption that Transformers has a fixed aesthetic or else it's not "Transformers" is frankly absurd and it threatens the line's ability to adapt for new audiences. If the line is going to survive, it needs to be able to adjust to changing audience's tastes. At any rate, the original 1984-86 line had a number of distinct aesthetic styles derived from the lines that it was borrowed from. Once they started making the toys super-posable, the aesthetics changed again. When Beast Wars started, the figures went from being blocky and angular to rounded and thin. Beast Machines had two fully different aesthics, and the TF movie designs (and story) are much closer to G1 than much of Beast Machines. At least the animation models of the movie robots are mostly based on the vehicle mode--the BM animation robot models had nothing to do with the anything on the altmodes.
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by Triceratron on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 08:44:35 AM
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by nortagem on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 10:31:12 AM
Hmmm...well, there's a lot more than just Meg's head being re-designed that's necessary...how 'bout the whole damn design!
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by nortagem on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 10:33:06 AM
Oh...nice one, Triceratron!
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by J_Man on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 11:24:35 AM
Don Murphy says : "It was NOT because we were trying to make the fans happy. NO SIREE."
Yeah, the part he didn't say is "It's because we wouldn't mind making the money back we put into this at the very least."
A group so warped that they had that for a design in the first place obviously was thinking the idea looked good. Now that they see what the reaction is, that's when they say theres a change from the leaked photos we've seen? No if that was the case there would have been word about that NOT being what he'll look like at that time. Not several weeks later.
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by openwound on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 11:36:59 AM
"NOT TO MAKE THE FANS HAPPY"!
Murphy being anal retentive as usual.
It'd be funny if they changed it to a G1 Megs head down to the last pixel.
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by Smeg on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 11:47:44 AM
I'm gonna sit back and wait until the revised head shows up. Being that this this is so far along, I can't see them doing a drastic change.
It's not far enough along to preclude a significant change - the live filming may be essentially wrapped up, but this movie's got a crapton of post production that it's just entering. They can still play pretty freely with the aesthetics of things.
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by Jory on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 12:13:52 PM
ok guys serious this isnt g1, yes we all love g1 but its boring, everything is jsut re-written g1 story lines and ideas, watch armada - energon and its mostly the movie and somewhat afterwards spread across 2 series I dont need to go into detail to much. this is something new, a diff story, nothing predictable, this is not g1. and remember Beast wars? how many ppl thought omg animals? its a change, I liked teh emgs face, it was twisted and evil. the only prob with megs is the same prob they had in Beast Machines, the robot modes so sleek and transformation is sleek that teh toy wont be that movie acurate. everything has been same. optimus dies or loses controll for bit the young kid becomes leader prime returns, megs becomes galvatron, star scream tries tot ake over and eventualy gets deystoryed at tehn reappears. some huge ass villan tries to desytroye verything good and evil work together to stop it then tehy continue their fight. Give us seomthing new, so you know what before you ***** about the movie wait for it to come out, its something new, give it a f'in chance. you guys couldnt do better. so you know what shut up and stop being a wussy
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by Triceratron on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 01:47:14 PM
"Yeah, the part he didn't say is "It's because we wouldn't mind making the money back we put into this at the very least.""
Ah yes, the Transfan ideal that if it doesn't please you, it won't please anyone because we assume we know best. Well, our place as being the main consumers of Transformers is about to be overthrown by this movie. This movie stands to create an entirely new and more adult sci-fi fanbase, one that has different aesthetic tastes and wants to see alien designs and ideas. This is where TF goes from being an 80's toy cartoon that only the select few still care about to a live-action sci-fi epic that far more people can get into.
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by sircharles on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 04:04:29 PM
that is good news on the head design , i think its time to leave the g1 where they belong in the past !!!!
Its time to move on , these new design are not that bad {well expect the flames on prime }
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by BOSSC351 on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 05:22:11 PM
Finally! Results. Not much, but some.
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by transformer007 on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 05:45:54 PM
Dear Don and Tom,
Please incorporate as much G1 stuff while keeping it fresh and innovative.
We will give you lot's of money if you do.
Keep up the good work.
Thanks.
Sincerely,
Jeremy
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by OSNemesis on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 @ 07:07:28 PM
ZOMG!! NOW I CANS FIENALLY SLEEPZ AT NITE BERCUZ MEGATRONZ!! FACE WILL BE CHANGE ED FER DAH MOVIERS!!!11!
Seriously though, the fans need to get out of the drivers seat and let these people do there job. Most here just have a problem with letting G1 die. I say they should have kept the face, and maybe even given all the characters different names. The transformers name brand was enough to lure plenty of old school fans and being that this is supposed to be a "new" movie, they should have started from scratch, IMO.
I'm sure half the people that go and see this movie won't even know the G1 characters and will just end up seeing it because it looks cool.
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by Blitzwing on Thursday, October 19, 2006 @ 03:16:32 AM
For those that complain everyone wants it G1 accurate:
Are you complaining because you think the G1 fans are trying to influence the project so that it's a live-action of a G1 episode, which you feel is overdone?
I don't think any of the old-school fans want that. We just don't want to see instantly recognizable figures get hacked up into something that is COMPLETELY different than what we know. Everyone keeps bringing up Beast Wars saying "Something new will work!" Remind me again, HOW successful was BW? I don't recall seeing alot of BW stuff out in the street.
Would you like to know my main concern with the movie? Too bad, I'm gonna tell you anyways :-) This movie is a great example of how Hollywood takes an idea and screws it up completely! Like some examples that haven't been used? Lost In Space, Godzilla (yes, I know, it's used as an example alot but I'm using it again) and Daredevil come to mind. 3 concepts that strayed from the known and flopped. FLOPPED.
You can only variate something so much before you ruin it's charisma and bury the line. I'm still keeping hope, but I'm still get visions of 1986 all over again.
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by Blitzwing on Thursday, October 19, 2006 @ 03:17:40 AM
Sorry, I should clarify. When BW was the current line, I don't remember seeing alot of stuff out in the street. BW seemed to take off AFTER it was off the air
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by ShockwaveRider on Thursday, October 19, 2006 @ 04:09:02 AM
I am all for a "fresh new" interpretation. The recent cartoons have all been ground-up reboots, and while being completely kiddie and stupid, have all been successful. However they all keep some very recognizeable elements from yes, G1; namely, Optimus and Megatron are always recognizeable, by some physical characteristics, and by their character. Also helps they've kept the voice actors, but still: Youan look at RiD or Cybertron Prime, and you know who you're looking at.
The movie Prime, despite his flames and cricket head, is still easily recognizeable as Optimus Prime. The movie Megatron, however, is easily recognizable as an extra from the last Guyver movie. I actually like the design on its own, I just don't see Megatron in it at all, and what's more, the face just does not look capable of much expression. I think they could make Megatron much more recognizeable (and more sellable) with a good face redesign. Not G1, but one that can express what a talented voice actor is capable of putting into it.
...And an arm cannon. Can't hurt. Arm cannon, Don!
Blitz, I think the show made BW a hit. I only bought one BW toy before I started watching the show; after that, I bought bunches. :D
Oh and one last thing, I effin' hate that Bumblfurbee face, Tom, Don, please make it go away!
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by nortagem on Thursday, October 19, 2006 @ 06:28:24 AM
Alright...it's time for a rant! Once again, I TOTALLY agree with BLITZWING! Once again, we hear the neverending rally of the G1-HATERS. Sorry kiddies, but G1 started it off...those are REAL Transformers! What I don't get is that 'the kiddies' are comparing Bay/Murphy hollywood crap to Beast Wars...sorry guys...even that's a far stretch! This is not the 'maturing' of a classic concept, this is the total annihilation of a concept! Although this is not the greatest of examples, what Armada/Energon/Cybertron attempted to do (with partial success) was to 'modernize' the look, not completely destroy it like the Hollywood boyz are doing. Transformers is not Gundam, not Macross, not Bionicles, not Guyver, not Spawn, not Voltron, not Zoids, not Terminator nor Predator nor Aliens, not Star Wars nor Star Trek nor Battle Star Gallactica, not Lost in Space (although that's the direction that Bay & Murphy are heading!)...and dare I say, not Beast Wars (as rocks are hurtled my way)...it's TRANSFORMERS first generation Robots in f'n Disguise...much more than just a 'cartoon' (for those that either had a problem with the cartoon or hated it)...yes, you see parts of their disguise in robot form; they're humanoid in form; most are vehicles, some are robotic animals (emphasis on 'robotic'); hell even a few can shrink down in size; throughout every series after G1 they carry over traits of the same characters (with the exeption of Beast Wars, which deviated from that, but at least carried over some remnants of Prime & Megs; and remember kiddies, was eventually forced to tie it back into G1 by the end of the series!)...there's cohesion...Bay's movie destroys that & Murphy is just an A$$. I know I'm wasting my breathe on the 'kiddies', but this one's for the 'choir'...you know, the REAL TRANSFORMER FANS! No whining here, just facts...I know, the truth f'n hurts!
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by Th_4RL_Deal on Thursday, October 19, 2006 @ 07:12:34 AM
This is one small step for a fan, one giant leap... oh ya know what just forget it...
Cliches aside, this is really great! Everytime I almost give up on thinking this could get cooler, something happens that brings me back to that place we call "anticipation." :)
Now if only we can get them to tweak STARSCREAM. ;)
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by LandRoacher on Thursday, October 19, 2006 @ 08:37:39 AM
Why in hell is everyone complaining about Megs? He just needs an arm cannon!
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by Triceratron on Thursday, October 19, 2006 @ 02:04:43 PM
Blitzwing, even though I don't have any hard figures, I do know that Beast Wars dragged Transformers from the brink of extinction to a renewed success they hadn't seen in years. For all the bickering and complaining that line created online, it was a glowing success in sales, and that's what counts. It seems, however, that very few people were willing to acknowledge how good a series it actually was until it was over. Most likely, many of us will remember this movie the same way when the trilogy is out of the way and we still see TFs on the shelves in a few years.
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by Blitzwing on Thursday, October 19, 2006 @ 02:22:32 PM
I'll agree to disagree. Seems the G1 fans will never agree with the BW/BM fans and v.v. I only wished to make the point that straying from the common path is risky. I'll leave it at that
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by chainclaw on Friday, October 20, 2006 @ 04:55:00 PM
A word of caution...
A very old, and very true, rule of thumb is "too many cooks in the kitchen can spoil the broth" If the film makers allow the fans to shape thier artistic vision, they are opening the kitchen door to a few hundred amature cooks that wouldn't know a slow-cooker from a waffle iron.
Re: Murphy: Megatron Movie Head Design Changed (Score: 1) by nortagem on Saturday, October 21, 2006 @ 06:55:31 PM
Now wait...isn't Megatron the slow-cooker & Starscream the waffle iron? Or is it the other way around? Well, I guess it doesn't really matter, just as long as they're a progression from what we've always known...
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