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Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode
By News_Staff on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 @ 05:54:55 PM
eBayer Black Sheep Toys has posted an auction that shows new images of Transformers Jaguar Alternator in beast mode. Check out the pics in the image gallery. Discuss it in the topic going on at Tfans.com.
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Re: Jaguar Alternator Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by KOG on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 @ 06:08:33 PM | I find myself failing to care on a nearly incalculable level.
Although I'm always happy to see new Alt moulds... I'd have much rather seen this as A) an autobot and B) something that turns into a bot. Not a critter.
I'll be passing on this one. |
Re: Jaguar Alternator Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by Galvatron397 on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 @ 06:11:19 PM | | O_O My god this may be the coolest Alt EVER! I mean I know there have beenother good ones (Shockblast) but this... this is just plain awesome on so many effing levels. |
Re: Jaguar Alternator Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by LandRoacher on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 @ 06:34:43 PM | | I have mixed feelings about this...... |
Re: Jaguar Alternator Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by SMOG on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 @ 06:43:59 PM | HaHA!
That's hilarious KOG!
You're one of the fundamental apologists for the "radical" "new" "original" "different" "innovative" TF designs for the movie...
...and yet here you are, panning this undeniably novel concept in Transformers! :)
I love it personally... both on a conceptual level, and in terms of the execution. However, I do hope it's mistransformed and that engine bonnet swivels and lays flat across the shoulders the other way around. It looks like it does, and if not, it would be easy to customize.
Bravo! I've been waiting to see this idea explored in Transformers for, well... at least a decade now. :) |
Re: Jaguar Alternator Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by zephon on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 @ 06:53:42 PM | Well, I just hope it goes into production and in mass quantities enough for it to reach us here in Manila,Philippines.
I love the car mode. I have mixed feeling about the animal mode....Then again, I believe that the real version might look a lot better than what's in the picture. |
Re: Jaguar Alternator Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by KOG on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 @ 07:01:47 PM | Apples and oranges.
In the case of the movie, it's a question of 'style'. But at the end of the day, it's still vehicles turning into bots.
But when I look at Alts, I have a totally different set of criteria.
My collection consists entirely of Autobot Alt/Bts. 100%. I've skipped all decepticon recolors/remoulds. I'm well aware that even back in G1, not all autobots were cars/trucks. And some decepticons WERE cars/trucks. But when it comes to Alt/BTs... I've always thought that the licensed vehicle thing fits the autobots perfectly. But if you start to have a lineup of cars vs.... a lineup of differently colored cars, it's just not so cool anymore. Hence my decision to collect autobots only. With me so far? Cool.
Based on the above, I already have a reason to skip this Jaguar/Ravage.
Now, reason #2. I have 2 lineups on my shelves. One of Alt bots, and one of BT cars. This new Jaguar... it'd look right at home in my car lineup. But it would look greatly out of place with my bot lineup.
Smokescreen - bot
Sideswipe - bot
Silver(Blue?)Streak - bot
Hound - bot
Tracks - bot
Jazz - bot
Grimlock - bot
Windcharger - bot
Wheeljack - bot
Prowl - bot
Skids - bot
Sunstreaker - bot
Optimus - bot
Mirage - bot
Ravage - kitty.... whoa whoa WHOA WHAT?!
14 bots and one robot cat.... meh. Doesn't work for me. Others may like it, and that's cool... but I want my lineup of bots to remain as just that. A lineup of bots.
So you see, my reasons for not being interested in this new Alt have nothing to do with HOW it was done. The execution could be perfect, but I still wouldn't want it. Because on a very basic level, I don't want a Decepticon Alt/BT. And I don't want a car that turns into a cat. I'm just not interested. Hell, even when I was a kid, most of my toys were of the autobot variety... |
Re: Jaguar Alternator Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by SMOG on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 @ 07:55:03 PM | Good to know that my own fastidious aesthetic sense and fickle, convoluted sense of internal logic are not unique to me, KOG. :)
We have something in common... I also prefer to get the Alternator Autobots. Why? I mean, they're all robots, right? Why should it matter? Some latent attachment to G1 politics?
And yet, despite preferring the Swindle mold, I still traded my Swindle to a friend for the Hound, just because Hound was a G1 Autobot, and that's the arbitrary parameter for my Alternators collection. After all, as a collector, as soon as you start relaxing your parameters, you stand to spend a whole lot more money! :)
I'm even desperately eager to swap my Grimlock for a Wheeljack because, well... Grimlock just doesn't fit as a car. The only Con I have currently is Shockwaveblast... and he was so cheap as part of an Ebay lot, I didn't sweat it... but I do love that figure just because the mold channels the classic Shockwave so damn well!
Which brings us to Ravage. I never liked mass-shifting. I never liked that Ravage was a cassette tape, and yet, I loved Ravage as a character. I liked that he wasn't a cybertronian who transforms into a jaguar... he was a cybertronian who WAS a jaguar. The obvious answer was that a Ravage had to be released that was an animal type who transformed into a vehicle... yet it never came to be until now.
Obviously it's all personal taste, but it's interesting to see that someone who argues fervently for fresh designs and new ways of looking at the old characters when defending the movie designs, can still get hung up on his old G1 baggage.
At least in this case, I'm not implying that your disdain for this design is wholly contingent on a lack of sophistication/maturity, or stubbornly retrograde tastes.
;)
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Re: Jaguar Alternator Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by Smeg on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 @ 10:49:19 PM | | I'll like this more if that car hood/front grill goes somewhere else. |
Re: Jaguar Alternator Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by Nemesis-x on Thursday, September 14, 2006 @ 01:40:54 AM | | they should've done steeljar instead of another ravage |
Re: Jaguar Alternator Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by Snakeeyes23 on Thursday, September 14, 2006 @ 02:06:18 AM | Thia would be a lot cooler if they hadn't already pissed the character away on a version that's the worst of a mold that's been used 3 times, even if that seemed to be more of an homage to BW battle ravage. In retrospect, that mold would have made a decent Seeker, with the missles and all. Oh well, at least Tracks still rules.
I think this is pretty cool and interesting. Clever use of the car name. Not digging the front end of the car just chillin' on his back like that. That sort of thing works with an upright robot , but not here.
Funny that we've seen this, but no Rumble proto yet. Am I the only one who smells Lazerbeak? I think the smaller bots like this should be motorcycles, golf-carts and , uh...soap box racers. How cool and stupid would THAT be?
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Re: Jaguar Alternator Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by TomServo on Thursday, September 14, 2006 @ 02:21:17 AM | | You can see a swivel point on the little arm holding the hood. That should make it lay better across his back. I'm very excited about this, but I need to see a propper pic before I make up my mind. |
Re: Jaguar Alternator Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by slugpitcher on Thursday, September 14, 2006 @ 02:24:02 AM | ok i was wrong.... it is a beast/car bot... i'm not sure how i feel, i'm sure that the final product will be all black but the hood looks bad the way it is positioned...
this is really a mixed bag for me.... i love alternators but i already have ravage... now there are two in the same timeline, one from the future and one from the present..... i might wait for the skylynk repaint... no i won't |
Re: Jaguar Alternator Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by ShockwaveRider on Thursday, September 14, 2006 @ 02:40:46 AM | Alts Ravage mkII-- "The Apology" ;P
I like him! MUCH better than the sew-betchin Corvette abortion. I agree it is too bad that they've pissed the character away so badly, but this looks to be a FAR better toy.
.... provided HasTakTom doesn't have any more GLARING MFR QC FUCKUPS like GLUING PARTS TO EACH OTHER. Like they did on Mirage. *grump* |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by slugpitcher on Thursday, September 14, 2006 @ 03:21:58 AM | | i guess they could recolor it as catilla or pounce... that would be cool pounce and wingspan... same car but different beastbots.... |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by Blitzwing on Thursday, September 14, 2006 @ 05:11:17 AM | "they should've done steeljar instead of another ravage"...
Don't worry dude, I can almost sniff a Steeljaw repaint coming. Knowing Hasbro, you can bet on it.
I do like Slugpitcher's idea of doing a clone of wingspan/pounce, but I doubt it'll happen.
And I said this before, but I agree that it's a damn shame that this didn't get released first instead of that Battle Ravage abomonation |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by WWOp on Thursday, September 14, 2006 @ 05:26:39 AM | | I think this is going to top Grimlock/Wheeljack for hardest Alternator to transform. |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by optimuscarlos on Thursday, September 14, 2006 @ 06:19:41 AM | I love it, there are some details to solve like the tap turned over his back, but It looks awesome anyway
Wait to see the final product.
And I hope that Rumble to be the next |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by tekwar2001 on Thursday, September 14, 2006 @ 06:20:35 AM | I'm in the same boat...maybe that purple piece is a swivel so it lays a little better....maybe once its colored on the back end it'll be great.
Anybody thinking maybe this and Rumble will be released at the same time?? |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by J on Thursday, September 14, 2006 @ 07:53:44 AM | GERRRRRRRRR!!!!! ROARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!
Another waste!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by Roboto750 on Thursday, September 14, 2006 @ 08:12:06 AM | | Looks great! I just wish they hadn't already done a Ravage! |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by bob on Thursday, September 14, 2006 @ 09:22:19 AM | I get what you guys are saying about only collecting autobots. Assuming I get this, it will be the first decepticon ALT/BT I get. But then with the exception of wheeljack I've pretty much skipped the repaints (although I'm going to have to get hotrod).
But I think the real qustion shouldn't be how well will this fit on my shelf, but how nice is the toy?
I wish I liked the proto slightly more- but I definetly like it and this is hands down one of the best concepts for the line yet.
Hopefully there's a BT version. |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by ownage on Thursday, September 14, 2006 @ 09:39:28 AM | | crap/useless |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by Smeg on Thursday, September 14, 2006 @ 09:51:59 AM | Hopefully there's a BT version.
Binaltech is dead. Long live Kiss Players :( |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by amethysted on Thursday, September 14, 2006 @ 10:24:27 AM | Well, I am happy to see a NEW Alternator after Rumble...
But I think the Jaguar SUCKS!
I am also happy that this a NEW Decepticon!
But the Jaguar SUCKS!
Cool car mode, though.
Nice try Hasbro. Try and create a bot we actually want to buy...
My money is going to some Classics figs...
Thanks TFans for the news update!
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Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by J_Man on Thursday, September 14, 2006 @ 10:57:02 AM | You know, now that these have shown up, a lot of the people bashing those who are complaining about the movie designs are the same ones to say they don't like this. It's like these certain people have to be the "little guy going against the popular thought".
Now I'll say they could have done better than this. It looks pieced together. It is possible though that it's not exactly transformed correctly. It's not like that would be the first time we saw something like that with prototypes. Either way, I'll probably pick this one up. Well assuming they get them out there in enough quantities so that scalpers can't possibly buy up the full stock. |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by corporstone on Thursday, September 14, 2006 @ 11:09:23 AM | | I would have definitely preferred to see this first Ravage made first and then Tracks repainted as a seeker instead. In my opinion, they've screwed up almost every single repaint so far. |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by Plumpdragon on Thursday, September 14, 2006 @ 12:14:24 PM | Its awesome but clearly mistransformed.
Looking at the joints I think the hood plus grill part of the car can be folded closer to the roof part then folded over forward so the grill sits above the head and inbetween the doors/wings. |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by Acecool79 on Thursday, September 14, 2006 @ 12:38:53 PM | | I like this. It doesn't look too bad in the jag mode. I think this is a novel concept that should have been explored in the begining. |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by thenightmareofsolomon on Thursday, September 14, 2006 @ 04:49:12 PM | | Quit whining! This mold rules. Haters can suck it and go ogle that grabasstic piece of amphibian shit that is Movie Megs. |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by Finn on Thursday, September 14, 2006 @ 09:24:55 PM | | Wow! That's a really good idea, just wait for a repaint for Steeljaw! |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by Plumpdragon on Friday, September 15, 2006 @ 05:47:57 AM | | Now I would love to see if they can do all 5 dinobots this way :) |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by KOG on Friday, September 15, 2006 @ 06:48:22 AM | Hahaha. It has nothing to with being 'the little guy going against popular thought'.
I was skipping decepticons looooooong before all the movie news/images started popping up.
I skipped Dead End, I skipped the first Ravage, I skipped Swindle, I skipped Shockblast (or whatever they called him in the end), I skipped Decepticharge, and I CERTAINLY skipped Nemesis Prime...
So I guess your 'theory' doesn't hold a lot of water.
I'm simply not interested in decepticons that are just repaints of autobots that I already have.
Now, if they took MP Starscream and repainted him and gave him a new head and autobot symbols, and called him 'jetfire'... would I want that? Hell no. |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by KOG on Friday, September 15, 2006 @ 06:57:24 AM | Oops, better clarify a little before someone else jumps on this point:
I know that this new ravage, unlike previous decepticons, is NOT a repaint. But the fact still remains, I've been totally skipping decepticons so far, and I'm not interested in getting any now.
Now.... I MIGHT give in and get Rumble. If he ever comes out. Since he's a new mould, and transforms into a bot, and won't look totally out of place with the rest of my collection. And if I get him... maybe I'll feel the urge to go ahead and get the other decepticons I skipped, so that he has some company...
But even then, I'm not real sure I'd want 'cat ravage'.
For now though, my wallet is happy that I'm not bothering with this guy. Hell, I haven't even decided if I can spare the money for MP Starscream or MP Prime. |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by CiaraAnne (PredaCiara@optonline.net) on Friday, September 15, 2006 @ 02:16:54 PM | | Finally! an alternator I find awesome! I love Beasties era and Ravage as a robot sucked @$$. This is the one I will leave in the box and actually collect. |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by Zepher on Saturday, September 16, 2006 @ 12:45:47 PM | | Kibblicious! |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by SMOG on Saturday, September 16, 2006 @ 05:05:59 PM | I think I understand why someone might limit their Alternator purchasing... there are all sorts of toys (and other things) that I think are way cool, but I dont' feel the need to start collecting them.
I was more interested in the fact that you seemed to be disparaging the very concept and design for this Ravage figure.
I think it's a great concept, and a reasonably good execution. I'm not usually into beastformers, but in this case, and because it's Ravage (oldschool! even the head mold looks pretty close to the original), I'm actually kind of excited about it.
It's curious how age and nostalgia define our tastes as compared to our "inner child". There are toys now that I feel drawn to because they resonate with some memory of my childhood... even if they might not be things I would have been as excited about when I actually -was- a child.
There's a similar phenomenon at work in the Japanese toy market now, wherein a huge portion of the market seems to be designed for adult collectors... like the Chogokin series of die-cast figures based on 1970's and 80's robots. Do little Japanese kids really care about Getter Robo? No, but their dads do... :) |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by crakbot on Sunday, September 17, 2006 @ 04:07:40 AM | | Every single proto that pops up is mistransformed. I can say that I'll love the finished product. This is one I will surely buy....as long as hasbro puts out enough of them.....*thinks of Swerve and Decepticharge and punches roommate* |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by 3cnfsat on Sunday, September 17, 2006 @ 08:19:59 AM | | Hmmm... they're releasing Ravage and Rumble alternators. Wanna bet they'll do Laserbeak as a T-bird? :) |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by Blitzwing on Sunday, September 17, 2006 @ 08:47:51 AM | | Good thought, but the Tbird hasn't been in production in a couple of years. Of course, the Ford GT is now officially dead too. |
Re: Ravage Jaguar Alternators Beast Mode (Score: 1)
by crakbot on Sunday, September 17, 2006 @ 09:10:21 AM | | I honestlt don't see them making characters like named cars. This ravage is the first one they've done where the name actually coincides with the car....but still, could be fun if they did |
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