It looks like 2025 will be filling out the Transformers Legacy trilogy with the United Wave 5 and then moving in Primes Wave 1 - 3 figures surfacing on the SNS. The sublines for Animated, Armada, G1/2 and Generations galore. Some of these have been called already, with some interesting characters on the list such as Solus Prime, Prima, and the first of the Arielbots landing. Look into the future thanks to the ever insightful @JTPrime17
Primes Wave 1: April 2025
Deluxe Animated Wasp
Deluxe Slingshot
Deluxe Air Raid
Deluxe Solus Prime
Voyager Prima
Voyager Armada Red Alert
Leader G2 Grimlock
Leader The Fallen
Primes Wave 2: July 2025
Deluxe Crasher PR
Deluxe Alchemist Prime
Deluxe Swindle
Voyager RID Skybyte
Voyager Rescue Bots Heatwave
Leader Onyx Prime
Primes Wave 3: October 2025
Deluxe Micronus
Deluxe Venom
Deluxe Skydive
Deluxe Fireflight
Voyager Alpha Trion
Voyager Flatline
Titan Class Star Optimus Prime?
The obvious choice being Star Convoy as nothing else would make sense without really, really stretching it. I just think it would be hilarious if it were Energon Optimus Supreme just to throw everyone off lol. Omega Supreme and Optimus Prime with his trailer and drones.
On a side note, I hate some of the names of Optimus super modes. Omega Prime should've been called Ultra Prime (ULTRA Magnus + Optimus PRIME). Optimus Supreme should've been Omega Prime (OMEGA Supreme + Optimus PRIME). And Ultra Prime could've been anything else as it's a standard five team Scramble City style combiner.
Commander Silverbolt. No surprise there.
G2 Dinobots. This makes far more sense them being the SS86 molds and not the core class molds. Although, the upcoming G2 Grimlock in the retail line kinda throws things off a bit. However one could be blue Grimlock and the other teal. Or they could just not have G2 Grimlock in the fan channel line since it would be released at retail.
Walmart Seaspray and Brawn. I have a feeling that these are going to be more reissues. But then what about them being called "Dlx"? Don't Minibots cost about as much as deluxe figures now anyway? And wasn't there some sort of rumor about size classes or something? Like they're trying to consolidate them again. Meaning that things that wouldn't normally be called a deluxe will now be called a deluxe for shelf and price sorting issues for Walmart and Target due to being the same price. So a $35 reissue would be called a voyager and a $55 reissue a leader. This would also mean warrior class will go away and be upped to deluxe as well. Or am I completely misremembering something and talking out my ass. I just could've sworn that there was something recently said about size classes and shelf space.
I mean otherwise that would put another "new mold" Minibot in the same shitty situation that Cosmos was in. Although, Warpath, Cosmos and Seaspray should all be retools of each other as they're pretty much the same toy when you think about it. Or rather, they mostly transform the same and have their parts do the same things and come from the same places. They could easily be reshells of each other. But that's neither here nor there and I'll digress.
More "Bullseye" Target exclusives. SSGE WFC Optimus, Megatron along with SSGE Devastation? Sideswipe and Wheeljack. Not to keen on any of these molds honestly and assuming that Sideswipe and Wheeljack will be more of the molds we've had for years. While I love to have more of molds that I like and are "good", Siege Sideswipe wasn't the best it could've been especially with how many we've gotten so far. Wheeljack is slightly better but still pretty boring in all honesty. I've already gone on before about my disdain for SSGE WFC Optimus and would much rather have an upsized deluxe from years ago. And that goes double for Megatron. What a letdown that voyager version was.
But what would these all be? Red and black redecos? White with black? Something else entirely? We've only gotten one figure so far and that was a black and red G2 Optimus. While I don't have it yet, that red looks to be a beautiful shade and looks great with the black. So at least the other figures would look good. Shame two of them are red normally with one of those two, red and black.
People have been speculating again about the upcoming Alpha Trion for next year's main line. They're going back and forth again between Thundertron and Scourge. I swear this one is going to be a Vector Prime retool. Hasbro and/or Funpub seem to flip between the beast and vehicle modes for him. So with ONE Alpha Trion being a beast, Age of the Primes' Alpha Trion would need to be a vehicle. But since the most recent one before ONE was based on Scourge and we have an available Vector Prime mold, I think Age of the Primes Alpha Trion would then use Vector Prime as a base.
OTFCC was going to be a beast, Botcon was a vehicle, Botcon again was a beast even though this is technically Cheetor, Million Publishing would've been a vehicle but wasn't released, Takara Legends was a vehicle but does he really count?, Titans Return was a beast...but also a vehicle, Cyberverse was a vehicle, Legacy was a vehicle, ONE was a beast. So okay, it's not every single other one is the opposite but it's close.
And since it doesn't get brought up enough, I have a feeling that The Fallen will be a retool of SS86 Megatron. But this will be more clear once we finally see SS86 Megatron. It's just two leader class tank formers that look like Megatron not being partials is going to be weird and a waste of resources. It would be like a leader Straxus not being a retool of a leader Galvatron as they're both non-tank mobile canons. Straxus looks really good by the way. I like him more than Galvatron and Galvatron is one of my favorite overall designs. I can't wait to see what they improve for SS86 Galvatron.
Why does the listing for SS Leader TF4 OP say "PR - package refresh"?
I just got Alpha Trion, Optimus, Sentinel, SS Optimus and Deployer Megatron today along with Shard (finally) and Vector Prime. Oh and also finally, Earthspark Grimlock. Now I can finish Mandroid.
Man SS Optimus kinda sucks. The "warrior" class deluxe one is really good comparatively as a Transformer. Sure the SS figure is quite a bit larger but it doesn't have quite the same charm as the smaller version. Cleaner alt mode. Cleaner robot mode. Does have that stupidly designed "diaper". Better weapon integration. Better colors. Better arms. Better Matrix. Worse Matrix chamber though. And it doesn't have ankles or seperate feet in general.
Alpha Trion is pretty cool too. I wouldn't mind Beast Machines and Universe Snarl retools from this but we know that's not going to happen.
I wish they changed the arms and the weapon for Deployer Megatron though. And Maybe have done the Minicon up as Laserbeak or something. Wingthing might be more appropriate for the mold though. Given that he was a little gargoyle looking thing and not a bat originally. Overload wasn't a bad figure back in the day. I actually kept it but sold off Drift, Blizzard Drift and Fracture after taking their Minicons. I have both versions of Crazybolt too. Speaking of, I'd love to see some redecos of that mold. I don't know how it would play into the film but I don't care. It was such a unique mold that barely anyone got to own.
Grimlock is okay. It was before in Cyberverse and is again in Earthspark. Retooled parts don't change much but the overall look.
I now understand why Shard is so popular though. The Armorizors still suck for the gimmick they're named after but as a stand alone figure ignoring the gimmick, she's really cool. The colors really pop too. I trimmed the key tabs off the sword handles so she could wield the swords normally. I wish there was a way to kinda use the booster things as replacement hands. They so look like that's what they want to do but there's no way to do it which is a shame. I look forward to getting more now.
Vector Prime was very floppy. But now that I think about it, so was Jhiaxus when I first got him. Had to tighten those joints up with some water based polyurethane (Kiki) real quick. Not really a fan of the wing armatures but that's about it. Couldn't care less about the details on the fronts of the shins left over from Jhiaxus. I do want something to put into the little ankle wing holders though. There's options coming out for those though along with a bunch of other things for him.
But none of those have anything to do with the most recent Amazon listings leak. But this last one does.
Sentinel Prime is really good. They even put in ankle pivots when they didn't need to. He's a triple homage. He's a cross between Combiner Wars Skydive in robot mode with FoC Blastoff in vehicle mode with a touch of FoC Air Raid/FIreflight with the shield thing. But once I transformed him I was reminded of what I'd like to see for Windblade toys moving forward. The way the arms turn into the front of the vehicle is what Windblade should be doing. With her shoulder pads becoming the intakes on the sides of the cockpit. They don't even need to have the nosecone flip behind the hands like on Sentinel and they can fold them away on a small bit of cockpit kibble to store in the chest cavity left by moving the head out of the chest for robot mode. That would make her super clean. The legs are no longer the issue for Windblade as there's like four or five good ways they've already found to handle them and the rear of the vehicle. It's the front of the vehicle and the arms and back kibble they still need to work on. Sentinel maintains the slim arms that can still work for Windblade despite them becoming the front of the jet. It's just Sentinel is how I envision Windblade transforming to almost eliminate the kibble in both of her modes. I just don't understand HasTak designers at times. These had to have been developed around the same time too. I wonder if they picked up on this themselves.
Regardless, I'm looking forward to a voyager Sentinel Prime.
That's it. That's all I really had to say about these new Studio Series Amazon leaks lol.
Now to open my box from Sugargirl on Ebay and put some upgrades on my figures.
Oh and I seen Wolverine and Deadpool today as well.
I think they lost a bit of what made the first two movies decent. This one was just lacking the charm or heart the other two previous Deadpool movies had. Cameos and references are great and all but almost all of them went nowhere or weren't given enough time. Shame really. I wanted Wolverine, when discussing his past, to at least mention Jubilee, Rogue or Kitty. You know, the three of his wards. He only talked about Cyclops, Jean and Storm. You'd think he'd have more to say about the younger members than the older ones, even Jean. Especially given who he was talking to at the time.
And Primus, the fucking endless quips. I get that this is Deadpool now and really how shows are made these past two decades but fuck, just speak like normal people for longer than a sentence or two please. And not a single person even thought anything strange of what he was even saying when he'd mention things nobody should know about or when he obviously broke the fourth wall. But at the same time, they didn't completely ignore him as if in a trance like Negasonic and Piotr did in the first two movies. They were acknowledging him while he was doing his shit. More in a following what he said and did kind of way and not a got involved kind of way but still. It's subtle but it was throwing me off. The other characters shouldn't be doing that if they're not another Deadpool or even She-Hulk. Or they should be like: Wade, what the fuck are you doing/saying?
If you've managed to avoid spoilers, there are some neat surprises that were only really speculated on but not confirmed. So that could mean anything/one as there was a ton of speculation.
Last but not least I had FIrehouse Subs after the movie and my run to Target. Their honey ham is so delicious. I love going there. No homemade brownies today but oh well.
Didn't see any PotP Evolution Optimus Primes on shelves at Target but I already have him, Nemesis and Star Convoy. Maybe if they change the shade of red or gave him the Star Convoy cab instead of the Orion Pax cab maybe. But then that would've defeated the purpose. I mean they're reissuing him to coincide with ONE right? Orion Pax to Optimus Prime. That's why they're reissuing this now out of the blue like this right?
Wait, so Ruckus' gun from Beachcomber DOESN'T become the front part of the vehicle? I'm hoping that's just someone didn't know it's meant to go there for vehicle mode. He looks good though. So much better than Crankcase and especially Windsweeper. Ruckus is how retools should be done.
So core Dinobot and deluxe Sureshot are still happening!
I'm hoping that this those are abbreviated listings though as Sureshot doesn't mention Spoilsport and Armada Wheeljack doesn't mention Whisper. By now that Siege Sideswipe mold should come with two Minicons for the standard retail price. Retool or not.
Wasn't expecting Overcharge. At least not in a single pack for full price. I was thinking they should've done a troopbuilder with him at a discounted price right off the bat. Oh well, guess I'll just have to wait for the sale to get more. Even if Hasbro really isn't producing as many figures anymore, I KNOW this one will be going on clearance somewhere. I might at least buy the first one at full price though. Or wait for Entertainment Earth with a coupon or with their damaged box sales.
Still really wish Galaxy Shuttle came with the Astrotrain head and a decal sheet to go from Astrotrain to Galaxy Shuttle. There's plenty of black and white Astrotrain releases to have a reason to have made that a dual identity figure. Glad I have another chance at getting more though. I wanted two more but never had a shot at them.
I hope G2 Dead End gets a reissue too. Fucking Walmart. Still need him and G2 Sideswipe. So once I get that G2 Breakdown, I'll have two of the G2 Stunticons as I managed to find Shadowstrip at Ross along with three Crashers. Luckily I got three as the one I opened up had horribly mismatched tampos for the number on the car front/robot legs. I didn't know to check for it. But the other two were fine. I wonder how they'll be releasing G2 Motormaster.
I'll grab another Cosmos for the gun. My mom and sister found one for me and never found one at Ross. Not that I looked hard though as I only went to one lol. They pissed me off with the credit card. I was approved but I couldn't use it that day and had to wait for the card to come in. They were supposed to send me an email I could've used in the meantime but it didn't come in for 6 days and the card was coming in the next day anyway. And if you're wondering; no, the employees can't sign you up at the register and use the card numbers you were approved for like a normal store as they force you to do a QR code bullshit thing. I'm too old for that shit. I had no idea what I was doing as I've never done a QR code before.
Hatchet is finally coming out. I wonder if they tried to mitigate the backpack in some way in all this time. Doubtful though it may be.
Double Punch from RotB Scorponok. Okay.
WFC/FoC Skywarp. Okay. I hope it's the Hasbro colors and not the Takara colors. I want my Skywarps to actually look like Skywarp and not like Hotlink or a nameless generic.
Apelinq will be interesting to see how they retool Primal.
I hope SS86 Galvatron isn't just a straight redeco of Kingdom Galvatron. They need to do a few things to make that work better. Maybe make the thighs longer to start with. Without seeing pictures of them together, I'm thinking that SS86 Optimus is going to be a tad taller than even Kingdom Galvatron wo was too tall to begin with. So they'll need to make SS86 Galvatron at least match the height of SS86 Optimus if not making him bigger like I think they want to do. So a straight redeco won't do. So the longer thighs with the bigger back plate to cover the longer thighs and then maybe do some work on the arms to make them "better".
Spinister vs Twin Twist. So I was right about Spinister being reissued. THIS is where they should've put Windsweeper's Targetmasters he wasn't supposed to have like I said months ago when we were speculating about what will be in that capsule line. They then could've put Spinister's guns in with Windsweeper. And okay, they're still insisting that there's a new Twin Twist coming and not the Topspin to match the Wrecker Diaclone Twin Twist. I mean, there is in fact more decos to use for Twin Twist but It would be nice to get that Diaclone Topspin first.
Ironfist vs Carnivac. So another Siege Hound usage for Ironfist I take it. And Carnivac was supposed to be TR Weirdwolf if I remember correctly. Or am I making up reading that in a leak somewhere. I mean, there's no shortage of molds that could be used with so many Cheetor molds running around lately. Tigatron, Ravage, Thundertron, Thunderhowl (they'd never use a non-Generations deluxe though so RotB Cheetor is out too). There's options is my point.
Wasp from Bumblebee.
Slingshot and Airaid as retools of each other or of the Fireflight and Skydive from later waves.
Solus Prime is interesting still but also still not much else to say.
Same with Prima.
Voyager Armada Red Alert will be weird considering we have a deluxe Cybertron Red Alert tooling in Cannonball. But it's not like that mold hasn't had several redecos so there's plenty of options for it. Red Red Alert (Inferno), Blue Alert (Prowl), Orange Alert (Powerlinx). And that's if they don't retool it into Energon Ironhide which I just thought of as an option for a voyager SUV mold. Shame they didn't wait to do Prime Breakdown until AFTER this mold came out. So that way Prime Bulkhead and Breakdown could be different molds.
As soon as I seen the leader class leaks for both SS86 Megatron and The Fallen I had the thought that they'd be mold mates. I still see that happening. I mean, it makes so much sense.
But let's go back a bit. A Galaxy Force/Cybertron capsule line. If we don't get a Dark Nitro Convoy finally I will riot...quietly and to myself with some slightly annoyed comments somewhere. Override GTS too.
But who else though?
That Cybertron Red Alert redeco from Cannonball?
Cybertron Galaxy Force colors for Vector Prime and maybe also for Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime?
Red Exillion or Excellion from Hot Shot? I want both actually as they are different colors. I had both at one time. Picked up Red Exillion from a great seller on Facebook along with a Chromia Medic (Minerva). Kept the Minerva and ended up selling the Red Exillion for a little more than I originally paid for both him and Minerva. I felt bad but I needed the money.
"Thrust" colors Starscream?
I mean, there's not many Cybertron molds yet that we know of. Not much retool potential either.
Maybe there's a new Seaspray happening next year that we don't know about to get Shortround from?
Hardtop from Beachcomber?
Scrapmetal from Cyberverse deluxe Shockwave? No, I already said they wouldn't use non-Generations deluxes.
Armorhide from Huffer?
Clocker from SS86 Hotrod?
Lugnutz and/or Ransack from one of the many deluxe motorcycle molds? There's plenty to choose from for either.
Breakdown from SS BB Arcee?
Scattorshot from Siege Hound? Wait, wouldn't that just be Generations Selects Cybertron Defense Hot Shot but a better use?
Okay maybe there's more options than I thought and I haven't gone past the scout classes yet lol.
Thundercracker from Needlenose?
Sideways from yet another of those many motorcycle molds?
Blurr from Pointblank? You know, like Velocitron Blur should've been made from instead of IDW Blurr from SS86 Blurr.
Buzzsaw from Spinister?
Crosswise from Kingdom Prowl?
Demolishor from Impactor?
Cybertron Defense Scattorshot from Impactor?
And I think that's about it without really stretching for mold reuses. I didn't include all the redeco potentials either. It would've almost tripled the list at least.
That is a nice roundup. I am looking forward to the primes. I do not think that I will get back into combiners since I still have Prime Wars versions of what has been rumored.
Well if they're anything like the Cyber Combiners then they'll be pretty decent and fun. I just hope they're two complete Transformers and not one Transformer and one drone with an obvious alt mode that can't change into that alt mode.
Oh Primus no. I just had an awful thought. What if they're like those Hero Mashers instead? Those were swappable. I also hope they're not those Crash Combiners but I think we moved past that with the Cyber Combiners.
However I can't help but notice the pairings and the fact that they're very similar to each other if not outright the same.
Optimus and Magnus could both be the cab bot. So the same figure twice.
Megatron and Shockwave could both be tanks because let's face it, they won't be guns thankfully. I've been over objectformers since Classics Megatron and the G1 Megatron I found for cheap around that time.
Bumblebee and Hot Rod. Both cars at the very least. If modern BB then both sports cars.
Cheetor and Tigatron. Both big cats. One is supposed to be bigger than the other but it wouldn't be the first time they use the same mold.
Starscream and Thundercracker. Do I need to explain this one?
Nemesis Prime and Clench. So this could maybe be another use of Prime and Magnus. So four of the same. However I don't think that's what's going to happen. I think Optimus and Nemesis will be the same mold and Magnus and Clench will be the same mold. How cool would it be if it's G2 Magnus and Clench. Both long nose trucks with the front end as shoulders. Except Clench has his pointed forward. But yeah, this is a redeco of Prime and Magnus regardless.
Shadow Panther and Ravage. Now this had me thinking that instead of Cheetor and Tigatron being the same mold that it's going to be Cheetor and Shadow Panther being the same mold and Tigatron and Ravage being the same mold. Maybe Transmetal style Ravage and Tigatron? That way they're not just larger versions of Cheetor and Shadow Panther.
But then there's Grimlock and Snarl. There's no way they're the same mold lol.
As well as a five pack. That throws everything off. If they pair up then why have an odd number in the multipack? This lead me to thinking that they're Hero Masher type things.
I really do hope for more Cyber Combiners though. They're really fun. I just got in the second year's warrior class Bumblebee today. The connectors are compatible with the Cyber Combiners. However Bumblebee does not look good on top of Bumblebee. Since the warrior doesn't have longer arms, he looks weird on top. But since the Cyber Combiner Bumblebee has too long of arms, he looks too weird on top of vehicle mode warrior Bumblebee as that's the only way to use him as "pants".
As a figure to itself though, warrior Bumblebee is really good. Like almost as good as the deluxe. Ball jointed feet, technically ball jointed shins that can angle outward as part of the transformation (can be useful for posing which is why I bring it up), knee joints, thigh swivels, ball jointed hips. a faux waist joint and ab crunch by utilizing the central joint needed for "combined mode", ball jointed head but mainly just swivel, ball jointed shoulders (can act as a faux butterfly joint), arm hinges for more shoulder movement at where the bicep connects to the front fenders and ball jointed elbows. This guy is packed with articulation. The transformation is surprisingly half unique but does have cues from the deluxe Earthspark, Cyberverse and T30 IDW Bumblebee designs. Alt mode looks good too. Just has an open spot between the legs in the rear and has the connector on top. Otherwise rather sleek.
Warrior Twitch still hasn't shipped yet though. I ordered them the same day from Amazon and they immediately went out of stock shortly after. They also haven't' updated until BB did the other day. Was starting to think I wasn't going to be getting either of them but I got BB.
Also got Takara's warrior Trash yesterday. They call him deluxe for some reason but it's the warrior class one. It's done up like Hasbro's deluxe Trash color wise though. Actually, the shades used are slightly nicer to the eyes yet also worse in a way. It's difficult to explain. Those colors Takara chose on the plastic type that figure is made of just makes for a weird combo to look at. Almost looks like a brittle plastic as a result. The kind used under the vac chrome on a Beast Wars era figure. I'm sure most of us have had a Beast era figure that lose the chrome. Like a milky white that's opaque but light shines though it making it look somewhat translucent. The teal is darker than the deluxe but not as dark as the Hasbro warrior class. I can't wait to see what Takara does with the actual deluxe Trash. I hope he has yet another color scheme. Two molds with each company making each figure different shades. That would be interesting. Four distinct decos for the same character.
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