Review: Universe Silverbolt Figure

It's almost been 25yrs since Transformers first invaded the United States. Hasbro has several figures lined up to celebrate the occasion, but Universe is giving us a precursor. Silverbolt, a jet afraid of heights, kicks off the 25th year markings. Check him out here.





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trench 2008-08-20 @ 9:01 pm
It's bashing two figures when you love a third figure with the same problems as the other two that I don't get.

It's because it's not as subjective as just evaluating the merits of the individual toys themselves- and of the three, one represents a popular new character, while two are half-hearted attempts to revive 20-year old characters about whom most people never really cared. Guess who gets cut the slack?

Megatron's a popular new character? So I guess the lead antagonist in BW really was Barney on steroids....

Anyway, while I see where you're coming from (kinda), I really don't see the logic behind it. At the end of the day the character represented is second to the actual toy. I don't know about you, but I would buy a kickass toy that represents an obscure character then a so-so toy that represents a primary character (Energon Sharkticon > Energon Optimus Prime).

Well, a popular new version of a popular old character :shrug .

But to your second point. It's because logic doesn't have anything to do with people's subjectivity when it comes down to it. Shoot, Blackout was one of the poorer movie toys, but everyone wanted an even bigger, more expensive version of him.

Agent Zero 2008-08-20 @ 3:35 pm
It's bashing two figures when you love a third figure with the same problems as the other two that I don't get.

It's because it's not as subjective as just evaluating the merits of the individual toys themselves- and of the three, one represents a popular new character, while two are half-hearted attempts to revive 20-year old characters about whom most people never really cared. Guess who gets cut the slack?

Megatron's a popular new character? So I guess the lead antagonist in BW really was Barney on steroids....

Anyway, while I see where you're coming from (kinda), I really don't see the logic behind it. At the end of the day the character represented is second to the actual toy. I don't know about you, but I would buy a kickass toy that represents an obscure character then a so-so toy that represents a primary character (Energon Sharkticon > Energon Optimus Prime).

At the end of the day we have Leader Megatron, Ultra Silverbolt, and Ultra Powerglide. All three have very simple transformation schemes that could probably work on a Deluxe sized figure. All three also happen to have good alt modes and really good robot modes. Megatron gets praised despite the simple transformation and the two Ultras get slammed because of it, when in actuality all three toys have pretty much the same things going for them and against them.

Try to rationalize it if you want, to me it just seems like a knee-jerk reaction on the part of the fandom.

Keep in mind, the reviews are based on MY opinions. They're not meant to tell anyone what they should think, but only offer another viewpoint. I try to be as subjective as possible in the body of the review, leaving my final personal view until the end.

No worries. I wasn't even trying to single you out. I was commenting more on the fandom's reaction to those three figures in general, rather then on one individual's opinion.

Cadogen 2008-08-19 @ 11:44 pm

Sigh... I shall explain myself in more stark detail:

Powerglide got bashed because his coloration is bland, his detailing should have been colored in and because he's not worth $25

Silverbolt got bashed because his transformation is Scout-class difficulty at an Ultra-class price, the colors in bot mode were gaudy and the jet mode looks like crap from the nosecone down

Onslaught DIDN'T get bashed because he had the cleanest alt mode, had good detailing and was the most justifiable to have an Ultra pricepoint

Keep in mind, the reviews are based on MY opinions. They're not meant to tell anyone what they should think, but only offer another viewpoint. I try to be as subjective as possible in the body of the review, leaving my final personal view until the end.

trench 2008-08-19 @ 10:55 pm
It's bashing two figures when you love a third figure with the same problems as the other two that I don't get.

It's because it's not as subjective as just evaluating the merits of the individual toys themselves- and of the three, one represents a popular new character, while two are half-hearted attempts to revive 20-year old characters about whom most people never really cared. Guess who gets cut the slack?

Lord Madhammer 2008-08-19 @ 6:27 pm
G1 was all kinds of fail as to matching the size to the anime's scale.

:argh THE TOYS CAME FIRST :argh

Sorry, it's just reflex

Agent Zero 2008-08-19 @ 6:21 pm
Probably because the sizing matches the scale. Megatron towers over most other bots, so it makes sense to have him as a leader class.

Yes, but aren't Onslaught and Silverbolt suppose to be bigger guys as well?

I just don't see the logic in loving a Leader class figure that has a Voyager-sized transformation and bashing Ultras that have a Voyager-class transformation. Either they all work as figures despite their over-priced size classes or they're all too simplistic for the price asked and not worth the money. Personally I'm more in line with the former.

The bots looking good in both modes is the final line for me. The complexity of the transformation really doesn't factor into it as long as both modes look good.

Saying Animated Leader Megatron is awesome despite his simple transformation scheme but saying Universe Ultra Silverbolt/Onslaught aren't worth it because of their simple transformation scheme is full of :tfwtf from my PoV.

Onslaught and Silverbolt weren't particularly huge... IIRC they were the sort of "almost as tall as Prime/Megatron" height that Starscream et al. were.

I think also the difference is that these Universe figures are complete start-from-scratch figures, whereas Animated Megatron has an existing design that he needs to match. And he pretty much does, so no harm done.

Yeah, but Megatron could have achieved that existing design with a Voyager figure, kept pretty much his entire Leader class transformation, and have cost $20 less.

Which seems to be the major complaint with the Ultras; that they could have been engineered at a lower size class and still work just as well as figures.

Don't get me wrong, I have Animated Leader Megs, and I think he works as a Leader despite his simple transformation scheme. He looks great in both modes, so no harm no foul. I also feel the same way about Universe Ultra Silverbolt and Onslaught.

It's bashing two figures when you love a third figure with the same problems as the other two that I don't get.

But eh.

Cadogen 2008-08-19 @ 6:20 pm

G1 was all kinds of fail as to matching the size to the anime's scale. Animated isn't perfect either, but they come way closer. That's not the point though. They could have made all FOUR of these figures (Powerglide, Onslaught, Silverbolt and Galvatron) Voyagers and cut out a ton of this negativity IMHO.

My love still falls to Onslaught the most.

Lord Madhammer 2008-08-19 @ 6:13 pm
Probably because the sizing matches the scale. Megatron towers over most other bots, so it makes sense to have him as a leader class.

Yes, but aren't Onslaught and Silverbolt suppose to be bigger guys as well?

I just don't see the logic in loving a Leader class figure that has a Voyager-sized transformation and bashing Ultras that have a Voyager-class transformation. Either they all work as figures despite their over-priced size classes or they're all too simplistic for the price asked and not worth the money. Personally I'm more in line with the former.

The bots looking good in both modes is the final line for me. The complexity of the transformation really doesn't factor into it as long as both modes look good.

Saying Animated Leader Megatron is awesome despite his simple transformation scheme but saying Universe Ultra Silverbolt/Onslaught aren't worth it because of their simple transformation scheme is full of :tfwtf from my PoV.

Onslaught and Silverbolt weren't particularly huge... IIRC they were the sort of "almost as tall as Prime/Megatron" height that Starscream et al. were.

I think also the difference is that these Universe figures are complete start-from-scratch figures, whereas Animated Megatron has an existing design that he needs to match. And he pretty much does, so no harm done.

Agent Zero 2008-08-19 @ 6:09 pm
Probably because the sizing matches the scale. Megatron towers over most other bots, so it makes sense to have him as a leader class.

Yes, but aren't Onslaught and Silverbolt suppose to be bigger guys as well?

I just don't see the logic in loving a Leader class figure that has a Voyager-sized transformation and bashing Ultras that have a Voyager-class transformation. Either they all work as figures despite their over-priced size classes or they're all too simplistic for the price asked and not worth the money. Personally I'm more in line with the former.

The bots looking good in both modes is the final line for me. The complexity of the transformation really doesn't factor into it as long as both modes look good.

Saying Animated Leader Megatron is awesome despite his simple transformation scheme but saying Universe Ultra Silverbolt/Onslaught aren't worth it because of their simple transformation scheme is full of :tfwtf from my PoV.

Cadogen 2008-08-19 @ 6:02 pm

Probably because the sizing matches the scale. Megatron towers over most other bots, so it makes sense to have him as a leader class.

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