AllSpark Experiment Secret Video - Bay Says Transformers 3 Goes Deeper

The 2nd movie is barely over and Michael Bay is already talking about what's in store fro Transformers 3. From a secret clip on the Transformers Blu-ray disc edition. Bay give us some of his thoughts on where he wants to go with the thrid installment citing the moves were grand enough that his desire is to go "sideways" deeper into the Transformers movie backstory and give us something darker and more emotional. From TFLAMB:
    In the video, Bay suggests he is going to try to go "sideways" rather than bigger with more research into Transformers lore (and image of animated Unicron is shown). His desire is for something that isn't just action but something darker and more emotional. The video was likely recorded before he committed to getting TF3 out for summer 2011 and really its way to early to draw any definitive conclusions from the video as likely the film is still in the spitballing phase to see what sticks. The video is below or click here which also has the solution to unlock the video. Thanks for Katie for the link.


Also shown in the video is an opening shot with what looks like some vehicle prototypes that have been identified by the video poster as:
    Tank: 1: Greenish-brown
    2: Large cannon on top
    3: Guns on side
    4: Chained tires,
    5: Lights on the front

    Small Car: 1: red
    2: Retro Hub cabs
    3: Biggest Engine
    4: Spoiler with Reg Back
    5: Numbers 66 on door.

    Corvette: 1: Green
    2: Spoiler is one to the right,
    3: Original wheels
    4: Reg Hood
    5: Numbers 66 on door.

    Jet: 1: Light gray
    2: Original wings
    3: Bomb in middle of wing
    4: Triple jet engines
    5: Large front end with extra wing

    Porsche: 1: Black
    2: Spoiler is one click right,
    3: Original wheels,
    4: Rectangular headlights
    5: Original exhaust tips.

    Sorry Michael I had to !! :P

So what do you think? Is this more Bay talkin' shit? Can Mr Bay do the story justice? Is it too late to repair what many see as very week plot line and fragmented Transformers canon? And Unicron, what's he going to do to our dreaded planet eater? Is nothing sacred?
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sgt__york - 2009-11-03 @ 3:20 am

I say we discover in the 3rd movie.. that the planet earth.. is really unicron... it will come alive and throw all the GPS satellites to heck.

In a back flash explaination - we'l go back in time when there were dinobots roaming the planet. There will be tons of grimlocks (because if ppl like 1 they will love a million of them).

ok.. i'm just talking out of my neck. Fact is, they make a TF movie, and i'll be thre with bells on. Love it or hate it -- just to see how they did and enjoy whatever is possible. It's just a damn shame that this is Michael Bay insetad of a better producer. I suggest we all keep our expectations DOWN.. and maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised and enjoy it more - even if it isn't a masterpiece of a movie.

Tramp - 2009-11-02 @ 10:46 pm

There's a difference between what the fiction says and what Micromasters obviously were.

Toys?

By that logic though, you can also ignore any of the characterization from any series and call that red and blue truck guy "Joe". I entirely agree with your statement they were obviously Hasbro clutching at straws at a dwindling marketshare and trying to cash in on the next fad, but all the supporting material makes it clear they went all the way with that grab and made them micro in the in the supporting market fiction sense as well. To deny they're smaller robots is to ignore that piece of the canon (which is fine, I'm sure we all cherrypick stuff), though. It seems very obvious that WAS what they were intended to be however, given that's how they were advertised and how they were portrayed across the board.. Is there any support to show they were intended to be "full size" Transformers anywhere? I don't recall as such.

Why wouldn't they be? There even playsets to go with the toys. Are we to think that there was really a miniature rocket launching pad to go with Countdown? A small service station to go with Grease Pit? I could think of them as full-sized vehicles, with smaller, more efficient robot modes, but that's as far it goes with me.

Mike, I have to agree with Greatshot on the Micromasters here. They were portrayed in fiction as significantly smaller bots, even smaller than G1 Bumblebee. The average Micromaster only stood about 6 or 7 feet tall at the most. They stand about the same height as a tall Human being. They didn't even come close to 10 feet. This is consistent from as far back as Marvel, through Dreamwave, and into IDW. They are indeed micro-sized Cybertronians, not simply micro sized toys of full-sized characters.

As for Michael Bay and the movies so far, I'm actually very pleased with them. I loved both movies and am looking forward to the third. I'm hoping to see Unicron in his full planet eating glory as well. Now, as for the comments about Bay not bringing in more of the TF lore in RotF when he had said he would, that is patently false. He idid indeed bring in more of the lore of the TF multiverse namely the Original Thirteen (in particular the leaders of them, the Primes), the Fallen, and tidbits of the Transformers origins. All that's left is Primus and Unicron, and Primus is already essentially there except by name.

MikePrime - 2009-11-02 @ 9:36 pm

There's a difference between what the fiction says and what Micromasters obviously were.

Toys?

By that logic though, you can also ignore any of the characterization from any series and call that red and blue truck guy "Joe". I entirely agree with your statement they were obviously Hasbro clutching at straws at a dwindling marketshare and trying to cash in on the next fad, but all the supporting material makes it clear they went all the way with that grab and made them micro in the in the supporting market fiction sense as well. To deny they're smaller robots is to ignore that piece of the canon (which is fine, I'm sure we all cherrypick stuff), though. It seems very obvious that WAS what they were intended to be however, given that's how they were advertised and how they were portrayed across the board.. Is there any support to show they were intended to be "full size" Transformers anywhere? I don't recall as such.

Why wouldn't they be? There even playsets to go with the toys. Are we to think that there was really a miniature rocket launching pad to go with Countdown? A small service station to go with Grease Pit? I could think of them as full-sized vehicles, with smaller, more efficient robot modes, but that's as far it goes with me.

ShellformerV1 - 2009-11-02 @ 9:25 pm

You know, the last time I went to go see a movie based on the premise that it was a sequel that was 'darker' than its predecessor, I saw The Lost World: Jurassic Park (a movie that shares many dubious details with TF: ROTF) and I nearly got shot.

All this on top of the fact that the movie, despite its darker tone, SUCKED like few would-be summer blockbusters have ever sucked before. A movie with this kind of money behind it does not HAVE THE RIGHT to be this bad.

You can't hold the fanbase responsible for what Bay & Co. perpetuate behind closed doors and subsequently sling at the public, on the grounds that they (obviously) can do so, and they know what's best. It was simply a bad movie. IMHO. It's got zip to do with 'hating' Michael Bay. It's got everything to do with hating the way he makes a movie. There's no discipline. No restraint. No dignity. He tells a story more or less at the 6th grade level of articulation, and doesn't even have the patience to follow through on that.

Bay doesn't have to like Transformers. I don't care. He could absolutely hate them, but TFs have made Mr. Bay a ton of money, have made him more relevant than he has ever been (not that he was some obscure filmmaker before)and people show up in droves to see his film. He could at least treat the subject matter with some level of dignity. But he didn't then, he isn't doing it today and he won't muster up the energy to do it tomorrow. Which is fine. It's his right. It's also hyprocritical, but what the hey. He's strictly in it for the money--we know that going in--and the titular characters suffer a wee bit because of it.

Forget the darker tone, because Bay can't deliver. And it's not just him. Outside of the character designers, no one connected with the Bayverse has shown much of an aptitude for the TF mythos. And as for the postulated 'darker tone': If the movie was good to begin with, we would not even be having this discussion. No one would care about tone. Just give me a good, reasonably coherent film. Come on, Michael Bay. I'm not asking for much, and I am not that hard to please. My god, I managed to find the silver lining in Deep-Star Six, so I know of what I speak.

And if Bay is serious about including Unicron, I FEAR what I'll see on the big screen. I'm talking white-knuckled, knee-buckling, sperm-count reducing, single-bead of dramatically descending perspiration FEAR.

Greatshot - 2009-11-02 @ 9:22 pm

There's a difference between what the fiction says and what Micromasters obviously were.

Toys?

By that logic though, you can also ignore any of the characterization from any series and call that red and blue truck guy "Joe". I entirely agree with your statement they were obviously Hasbro clutching at straws at a dwindling marketshare and trying to cash in on the next fad, but all the supporting material makes it clear they went all the way with that grab and made them micro in the in the supporting market fiction sense as well. To deny they're smaller robots is to ignore that piece of the canon (which is fine, I'm sure we all cherrypick stuff), though. It seems very obvious that WAS what they were intended to be however, given that's how they were advertised and how they were portrayed across the board.. Is there any support to show they were intended to be "full size" Transformers anywhere? I don't recall as such.

MikePrime - 2009-11-02 @ 9:00 pm

I don't like them because they're all jittery and insane. Some of them are really silly too, like that razor-thin robot that stole the Allspark shard.

The personality dislike is valid, I got no counterargument to that. I actually thought "reedman" was kind of interesting though-- nice way to play up Ravage's "stealth" abilities without going to the tired and true Predator/Romulan/etc cloaking device.

Oh, and Miromasters were just Hasbro trying to cash-in on the new Micro Machines toys of the late 1980s. They are not Transformer characters that were tiny.

There's no doubt Hasbro was reaching for the Micro Machines market, but they most certainly *ARE* tiny Transformers, that's how they're portrayed in every canon I've seen.

I don't mean Ravage when I'm talking about small movie Transformers. Ravage was portrayed rather well.

There's a difference between what the fiction says and what Micromasters obviously were. That's why I have no problem when Hasbro decides to make Micromaster homages out of new Transformer toys.

Greatshot - 2009-11-02 @ 8:57 pm

I don't like them because they're all jittery and insane. Some of them are really silly too, like that razor-thin robot that stole the Allspark shard.

The personality dislike is valid, I got no counterargument to that. I actually thought "reedman" was kind of interesting though-- nice way to play up Ravage's "stealth" abilities without going to the tired and true Predator/Romulan/etc cloaking device.

Oh, and Miromasters were just Hasbro trying to cash-in on the new Micro Machines toys of the late 1980s. They are not Transformer characters that were tiny.

There's no doubt Hasbro was reaching for the Micro Machines market, but they most certainly *ARE* tiny Transformers, that's how they're portrayed in every canon I've seen.

MikePrime - 2009-11-02 @ 8:35 pm

Where do you go after the Earth is saved in the second movie? Cybertron? A movie that is mostly robots doesn't seem to be Michael Bay's cup of tea.

I wish for one thing in the next movie. No tiny robots! More than anything else, I really do not like the tiny robots in these Transformers movies. They are annoying.

Also, if the Allspark could bring a Mountain Dew machine and kitchen appliances to life, why did never bring a regular car to life?

I know it's never explicitly shown transforming on camera, but I always assumed that SUV who's steering wheel eats the girl's face in the first movie was brought to life as a full TF.

I don't mind the little stuff so long as it's not a focus. They're no different than the G1 tape guys or micromasters or minicons, and they serve a role the "giants" can't (like Frenzy's or even Wheelie's infiltration antics).

edit: weird redundant post is weird. Can't figure out how I managed that one. :lol

I don't like them because they're all jittery and insane. Some of them are really silly too, like that razor-thin robot that stole the Allspark shard.

Oh, and Miromasters were just Hasbro trying to cash-in on the new Micro Machines toys of the late 1980s. They are not Transformer characters that were tiny.

Greatshot - 2009-11-02 @ 8:30 pm

Where do you go after the Earth is saved in the second movie? Cybertron? A movie that is mostly robots doesn't seem to be Michael Bay's cup of tea.

I wish for one thing in the next movie. No tiny robots! More than anything else, I really do not like the tiny robots in these Transformers movies. They are annoying.

Also, if the Allspark could bring a Mountain Dew machine and kitchen appliances to life, why did never bring a regular car to life?

I know it's never explicitly shown transforming on camera, but I always assumed that SUV who's steering wheel eats the girl's face in the first movie was brought to life as a full TF.

I don't mind the little stuff so long as it's not a focus. They're no different than the G1 tape guys or micromasters or minicons, and they serve a role the "giants" can't (like Frenzy's or even Wheelie's infiltration antics).

edit: weird redundant post is weird. Can't figure out how I managed that one. :lol

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